I hope you've chipped in to officiate a couple dozen races if you're gonna make a comment like that. This sport survives by a very small number of officials giving of up 90% of their summer weekends so that we can race bikes. The best thing is that the riders do nothing but give them endless crap. Comments like the one from Mr. Anonymous will teach those crazy officials to...stay home on the weekends and avoid the fuckin' grief. That'll be great!
I predict your downtube will get all dinged up by that chip-seal bullshit road... Or someone will lose some teeth crossing the cattle guard. And the purse will be silly.
i hear a lot that local races have iffy officiating... its tough when you straddle the fence between local racing and international racing... i dont expect that they will be officiated in the same way.. even though i think that they should be... and then you have your events where you get the crew of locals out to do an NRC.. thats always a real fun time... its growing pains.. and a lack of education for officials who step up to do big events... but for a race like VOS what can you do?... its a local race and so you should expect a different kind of officiating there... especially with the history of snafus that they have... even if it ought not to be like that... it is what it is...
i generally have confidence that what i am doing is good and right... so taking critisism (shit off people) is really easy for me... but for other people i understand that it might not be so simple to take critisism...
this is why lotts and cbr are good.. he can take it when you rail on him... and the officials he uses can take it too...
so when lotts screws up something in his races just go scream at him for being a retard... he wont cry... i promise... and they wont try to fine you for something stupid later on...
Glad to hear New England has the best officials. MT and I are moving to Watertown, MA (to work for a bike company) in a month. We're hoping to be there in time to race the Marbelhead thing. Gotta call Durso!
HEY JONI! Let me welcome you to the neighborhood. I used to live in Watertown (hmmm... which bike co. would THAT be) but I'm just a few mi. away now. Only living in some North American Tundra would winter riding seem pleasant here. Oh, wait...
I thought you were from that neck of the woods, Parke! Mike and I checked out the racing scene and it looks pretty full in New England! And we have some cool career/jobs lined up with a state-o-the-art bike company...so we are back in the game. We were there a two weeks ago...right before the snow...it was 50F! Plus suffering in bad weather with other like-minded folks is way different than suffering in Siberia. We are stoked. MT leaves in a couple of weeks. I leave a couple of weeks after that. Maybe we'll see ya at the races...or on the road!
Erik- I take it you got the call about the VN article on CBR too?? RB
Re: Officiating- there isn't always a "right" way to handle every issue, but there is almost always a "wrong" way... Like taking the most well-known guys in your race and arbitrarily disqualifying them for doing the same thing the rest of the field is doing.
Re: Officiating- What place was Goodwin relegated to? The results I have seen have him in 7th place. Was he relegated 1 or 2 places for folding his number? If Doc really wanted to make his point he should have relegated him out of the money. I'm not agreeing with Doc but "everybody" was not folding their numbers and Goodwin was there while Doc delayed the start so that one of Goodwin's teammates and some other riders could re-pin their numbers. You know he gets pissed at a folded number so to save everyone including yourself some grief don't fold the number. I understand when the numbers are huge billboards but the numbers at Brea weren't bad.
i dont think we really cared.. its just funny is all... if the number is folded and they cant read it and we miss the protest period then we are sol... thats fine...
i just think docs tirades are stupid.. and i think he just gets off on it so much that i dont want to deprive him of his weekly drama... its been years that we go on and on with this thing between him and the riders where he spouts off about nothing and we just laugh... so i put my number how i like so it fits like i like it and i just laugh at him... and if the experience costs me 20 bucks then it was good entertainment for me...
at big races they just dont give you a hard time about crap like that... and the everything works out and the places get picked fine and the world doesnt end...
Hmmmm. The cyclingnews.com results lists shows a lot higher number of DNFs than seem likely. Maybe they're supposed to be DNSs? The only name among them that really jumps out is Aimee Vasse's on the women's side, a CPT-Colnago rider.
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I predict there will be poor officiating at Valley of the Scum. That's what I think...
I also predict the chick pictured here:
successfulliving.com/team-sl.php
will lead your team to victory in the crit.
RB
I predict Joey D'Antoni gets on the podium in the TT at Valley of the Sun again... oh wait. My bad.
I hope you've chipped in to officiate a couple dozen races if you're gonna make a comment like that. This sport survives by a very small number of officials giving of up 90% of their summer weekends so that we can race bikes. The best thing is that the riders do nothing but give them endless crap.
Comments like the one from Mr. Anonymous will teach those crazy officials to...stay home on the weekends and avoid the fuckin' grief. That'll be great!
I predict if Doc hess is there, Saunders team will be DQ.
Doc (what kind of Dr. is he?) won't work this weekend. He is too old to travel and the only race in socal is CBR (yay).
I predict your downtube will get all dinged up by that chip-seal bullshit road... Or someone will lose some teeth crossing the cattle guard. And the purse will be silly.
i hear a lot that local races have iffy officiating... its tough when you straddle the fence between local racing and international racing... i dont expect that they will be officiated in the same way.. even though i think that they should be... and then you have your events where you get the crew of locals out to do an NRC.. thats always a real fun time... its growing pains.. and a lack of education for officials who step up to do big events... but for a race like VOS what can you do?... its a local race and so you should expect a different kind of officiating there... especially with the history of snafus that they have... even if it ought not to be like that... it is what it is...
i generally have confidence that what i am doing is good and right... so taking critisism (shit off people) is really easy for me... but for other people i understand that it might not be so simple to take critisism...
this is why lotts and cbr are good.. he can take it when you rail on him... and the officials he uses can take it too...
so when lotts screws up something in his races just go scream at him for being a retard... he wont cry... i promise... and they wont try to fine you for something stupid later on...
New England has the best officials. Local racing up there rocks. I miss the Fortinis'...
Glad to hear New England has the best officials. MT and I are moving to Watertown, MA (to work for a bike company) in a month. We're hoping to be there in time to race the Marbelhead thing. Gotta call Durso!
doc was/is a chiropractor. he's what you bike racers would call a 'top'. i like him... just because he's a OG Hater.
HEY JONI!
Let me welcome you to the neighborhood. I used to live in Watertown (hmmm... which bike co. would THAT be) but I'm just a few mi. away now.
Only living in some North American Tundra would winter riding seem pleasant here. Oh, wait...
I thought you were from that neck of the woods, Parke! Mike and I checked out the racing scene and it looks pretty full in New England! And we have some cool career/jobs lined up with a state-o-the-art bike company...so we are back in the game. We were there a two weeks ago...right before the snow...it was 50F! Plus suffering in bad weather with other like-minded folks is way different than suffering in Siberia. We are stoked. MT leaves in a couple of weeks. I leave a couple of weeks after that. Maybe we'll see ya at the races...or on the road!
Erik- I take it you got the call about the VN article on CBR too??
RB
Re: Officiating- there isn't always a "right" way to handle every issue, but there is almost always a "wrong" way... Like taking the most well-known guys in your race and arbitrarily disqualifying them for doing the same thing the rest of the field is doing.
Re: Officiating- What place was Goodwin relegated to? The results I have seen have him in 7th place. Was he relegated 1 or 2 places for folding his number? If Doc really wanted to make his point he should have relegated him out of the money. I'm not agreeing with Doc but "everybody" was not folding their numbers and Goodwin was there while Doc delayed the start so that one of Goodwin's teammates and some other riders could re-pin their numbers. You know he gets pissed at a folded number so to save everyone including yourself some grief don't fold the number. I understand when the numbers are huge billboards but the numbers at Brea weren't bad.
i am not sure if it was one or two places...
i dont think we really cared.. its just funny is all... if the number is folded and they cant read it and we miss the protest period then we are sol... thats fine...
i just think docs tirades are stupid.. and i think he just gets off on it so much that i dont want to deprive him of his weekly drama... its been years that we go on and on with this thing between him and the riders where he spouts off about nothing and we just laugh... so i put my number how i like so it fits like i like it and i just laugh at him... and if the experience costs me 20 bucks then it was good entertainment for me...
at big races they just dont give you a hard time about crap like that... and the everything works out and the places get picked fine and the world doesnt end...
Gunn got beat pretty bad. Faster than I could have ridden. Did he ride the fixed gear?
Looks like Gunn was second, behind Priority Health's Tom Zirbel and ahead of last year's overall winner Ryan Blickem.
Hmmmm. The cyclingnews.com results lists shows a lot higher number of DNFs than seem likely. Maybe they're supposed to be DNSs? The only name among them that really jumps out is Aimee Vasse's on the women's side, a CPT-Colnago rider.
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