what do i need to get so i can make my bass sound like a big fart like bootsy collins?... on a lot of vamps he bounces on the one to drive the groove and it sounds like a big rubber fart on overdrive...
i wann play a big fart bass...
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Sounds like what you are looking for is a good old Johnson Rod.
Boss make some good stuff. Make sure whatever you get is bass specific or it will suck because it is dialled in to muck around with the wrong frequency range. Try playing different ones... good way to waste time in dead cities between racing bikes.
Classic Mothership Connection Tour gear: Custom Space Bass (built by Larry Pless), Alembic F2-B preamp, Crown 300 power amp, Mu-Tron III envelope filter, Morley Wah/Fuzz, Electro-Harmonix Big Muff distortion, Oberheim Echoplex, Mu-Tron Octave Divider, MXR Digital Delay, two Cerwin-Vega speaker stacks, each consisting of a 1x18, a 1x15, and a 1x12 + horn.
The man now runs four different pickups into four different outs via separate signals and always runs one clean!!!
A Comp/limiter is probaly NOT the way to go if you only want to overdirve the signal (i.e. distortion) on the 1 but lessen the effect in the pocket beats, and the EQ only changes frequency response, not exactly an effect. Your Berhinger has an amp modeler, but the actual amplifier isn't ballsy enough the really overdrive the speaker, so what you're experiencing is probably a threshold problem - either it sounds too clean, or everything gets distorted, not enough dynamic range to seem controllable. Some of that can be solved with practice, how much I don't know. I have a friend who spent years and thousands of dollars trying to get that "Jimi" sound and finally got it by swapping out his expensive speakers for some old ebayed 1960's square magnet drivers that were easier to overload. Call/email me if you need some info.
you are excactly right parke... I can get it to work out well by "practicing" but what I am going for is a more dynamic effect... its right now two clicks down from all-or-nothing... I get some cool modualtion and a bit of a rubber fuzzy bounce... but I am looking for more sound... I figure that I just need to go one day and figure out what is available and play some different things... other than me putting a lot of english on it what I have now is an on or off thing even though there are dials on the shape and gain..
I bet you just looked up my amp and read the specs and went "well duh..."
I think it works out ok because I have active pick-ups and I plug it in to the boosted input... that's the only way I can get a decent sound...
Be not fooled by the allure of tubes. Really, in terms of power, tubes suck. And I'm a STUDIO guy saying this. That old Crown DC 300 is a two-channel touring solid state clocking in at around 600 W (assuming Parrallel/series) into those stacks, which gives you some idea of the kind of dynamic range bootsy expects (actually a bit low by today's/my standards). ERIK - I'm heading into San Fran Sept. 2 and heading East to camp in Joshua tree. If you want to try something out let me know and I'll ship it with me...
the Boss synth pedal is the cheapest easiest way to get anything from space funk to techno sounds out of your bass rig the possibilities are. endless. peace. brother
....a big rubber fart...I,ll take that as a complement. Iam Larry Pless who built Bootsy's space basses. I will try to figure out how to get a good "fartadelic" sound into each bass that I make!!
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Sounds like what you are looking for is a good old Johnson Rod.
You need to be the funkadelic master of the mothership... brmp brmp - brmp brmp - brmp brmp - brmp brmp - brmp - brmpmrpmrp... FLASHLIGHT!
EQ and a limiter.
what type/brand of filter do you reccomend?.. there are a TON out there it seems...
Boss make some good stuff. Make sure whatever you get is bass specific or it will suck because it is dialled in to muck around with the wrong frequency range. Try playing different ones... good way to waste time in dead cities between racing bikes.
You might be interested in this...
Classic Mothership Connection Tour gear: Custom Space Bass (built by Larry Pless), Alembic F2-B preamp, Crown 300 power amp, Mu-Tron III envelope filter, Morley Wah/Fuzz, Electro-Harmonix Big Muff distortion, Oberheim Echoplex, Mu-Tron Octave Divider, MXR Digital Delay, two Cerwin-Vega speaker stacks, each consisting of a 1x18, a 1x15, and a 1x12 + horn.
The man now runs four different pickups into four different outs via separate signals and always runs one clean!!!
thanks for that... you are a better google searcher than me...
I am indeed the google search master. You should worship the ground upon which I walk. Thanks for reminding me to listen to some P-Funk my man...
A Comp/limiter is probaly NOT the way to go if you only want to overdirve the signal (i.e. distortion) on the 1 but lessen the effect in the pocket beats, and the EQ only changes frequency response, not exactly an effect.
Your Berhinger has an amp modeler, but the actual amplifier isn't ballsy enough the really overdrive the speaker, so what you're experiencing is probably a threshold problem - either it sounds too clean, or everything gets distorted, not enough dynamic range to seem controllable. Some of that can be solved with practice, how much I don't know.
I have a friend who spent years and thousands of dollars trying to get that "Jimi" sound and finally got it by swapping out his expensive speakers for some old ebayed 1960's square magnet drivers that were easier to overload.
Call/email me if you need some info.
you are excactly right parke... I can get it to work out well by "practicing" but what I am going for is a more dynamic effect... its right now two clicks down from all-or-nothing... I get some cool modualtion and a bit of a rubber fuzzy bounce... but I am looking for more sound... I figure that I just need to go one day and figure out what is available and play some different things... other than me putting a lot of english on it what I have now is an on or off thing even though there are dials on the shape and gain..
I bet you just looked up my amp and read the specs and went "well duh..."
I think it works out ok because I have active pick-ups and I plug it in to the boosted input... that's the only way I can get a decent sound...
electro-harmonix
big muff pi
distortion pedal
I would have said tube amp but from the google search ya'll did it sounds like his set was more solid state than I thought.
Be not fooled by the allure of tubes. Really, in terms of power, tubes suck. And I'm a STUDIO guy saying this.
That old Crown DC 300 is a two-channel touring solid state clocking in at around 600 W (assuming Parrallel/series) into those stacks, which gives you some idea of the kind of dynamic range bootsy expects (actually a bit low by today's/my standards).
ERIK - I'm heading into San Fran Sept. 2 and heading East to camp in Joshua tree. If you want to try something out let me know and I'll ship it with me...
the Boss synth pedal is the cheapest easiest way to get anything from space funk to techno sounds out of your bass rig the possibilities are. endless. peace. brother
....a big rubber fart...I,ll take that as a complement. Iam Larry Pless who built Bootsy's space basses. I will try to figure out how to get a good "fartadelic" sound into each bass that I make!!
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